I know, I read those, but none of what I read seemed to do the model justice. I think it may be just a little under rated. Based on the rest of the 3D forum, I can understand why. The most active threads pertain to the bigger, more expensive models. I just thought it would be nice if this little guy didn't go unnoticed, that's all. Maybe I should have posted in the ARF forum, or maybe the sport flying forum. I just checked out the video of the 46 powered katana profile. I wish I had seen that a couple of weeks ago. The Harrier can do all of what he does, with the exception of that slow KE. I haven't figured out the right combination for that yet.