Hi Harphunt: Good to hear from you again. I'm one of those that prefer a trike gear setup. Therefore my vote goes to the Carl Goldberg Tiger 2 or Tiger 60. I've owned both with a Saito 91 in them. While the Tiger 2 had a little better vertical, the 6o knife edges better, go figure. Now to completely contradict myself i'm thinking about a Dynaflite(I cringe when that word gets mentioned, to much carve, and sand to shape involved) Chipmunk, or 4*120 with the RCS 1.4 gas engine for my next project. I am leaning to the 4* 120 because I will not hesitate to turn it into a trike gear, because while I can set the tiger 60 down as if on glass 9 out of 10 times, there is still that 10th time, and I don't wan't to negate the money I save from buying gas instead of glow fuel by having to buy props. I realize I may still break props, but I feel my chances are better with a trike, and, I just like the looks better. 16" props start to get pricey. And a Chippy, just wouldn't be a chippy with a trike gear on it. Always happy to help if I can. Garry