well maybe ill buy a showtime just to get in here to defend the ucd, where does Bob get his info? well my ucd does great flats(blenders) great knife, great hover(20ft), great low and slow, ive only been flying 17mos and am a self learner and have no one else around to put cr&^ in my head so i can pick and choose who to learn from on here, sorry Bob, cant buy your post