Yea I know. I was doing nose down torque rolls with mine today. If I can get some things fix on mine I will be able to do it 5 feet from the ground. I can only do it 10-15 feet now but I got to fix something so I will have the power to get out of a 5 foot nose down torqueroll. I was just saying that a lot of the things you can do on the aerofly one is just stuff that cannot be done with a real model.