Well I guess at my level I needed g3. I would only like aerofly to play around with but to learn to do the manuvers right I needed g3. I still may get aerofly in the future but not now. Anyway a airplane is just way to unstable when you go to the vpp. You cant really control it. Basically I snap mine and throw it to reverse mode and it holds in a down torque roll and would stay if my plane didnt have all of that glue on it but it holds altitude for a while.