It is fun to set at a meeting and have them call for a show hand or a verbal yea or na Then wonder who is next . It make no difference who holds an office or attends a meeting the same people have the say no matter what is on the ajenda. Just watch for the looks from across the room and you can see a lot of change in votes or no votes at all. Most of us do not have the gutts to speak up, when you do you are the next in line for the block. Yes I was and AM one of those people that believe in rule and by laws but the should apply to even the ones that think they run the club