I read the manual off the link you posted. What a joke. I feel bad for someone that dont know about this board and has no one to ask for help.

I just bought two #36 off ebay. I got one with a brushles motor, lipo battery , & carbon blades. the other is a complete copter with no eletronics. This way I have spare parts on hand . I also got, 1 extra battery, 3ext ra sets of top and rear blades. and simulator cable . The total came to $430 with shipping.

This is my first copter. I know I could of made a better choice but after reading the post on the #35 I feel that I can spend some time and really get to know what they are all about. I Also wont feel to bad when I crash this one. Once I lurn to fly (after 50 or so crashes) I will look to get a Quality machine. I am sure I will have a lot of question to ask when I get into this hobby more and more