Let's keep something else in mind, as well. (since nashman hasn't returned, I think perhaps britbrat was right to ask if this was a joke...but this thread raises an interesting issue I've noted recently, so I'll toss out my $0.02 for you guys to make fun of. )

Despite the reluctance of some (and I do not mean to suggest anyone in this thread...just the general 'they' that seem to populate most airfields) to admit it, there ARE those of us running around who simply EXPECT an aircraft to be much quicker/more responsive than your average trainer or even average 2nd plane.

My second was an ElectroStreak ARF...it taught me more, and gave me more valuable experience (and confidence) than the Telemaster EVER did. my 3rd is a SuperStick...again, same results.

How twitchy are they? Twitchy enough that several of my club's 'old men', all with > 10 years experience, simply don't like flying them because they're 'too jumpy'. In fact, I recently sold the ElectroStreak to a club member who is far more experienced than I and, imo, is a much better pilot. His immediate action? He turned the rates down about 40%

In fact, even now that I can sling the stick all over the sky with great comfort, I STILL can't get comfortable flying the Telemaster, or the ElectroStreak on low rates...they just don't do what my brain thinks an 'airplane' should do.

Now, please understand...I'm not suggesting I'm a 'better pilot' than others, or anything of the sort. I am CLEARLY still a newbie, with truckloads to learn, and hundreds of skills left to master.

I've simply begun to realize that the plane-brain connection as my LHS owner calls it matters a great deal....and that some folks really ARE more comfortable with quick and responsive planes than they are with slower, gentler aircraft. In my case, maybe it's because I grew up around fighter jets and their pilots. THOSE planes always seemed to be hyper-responsive, so my little 6 yr old brain probably presumed ALL planes should be. At this point, I'm likely too stuborn and set in my ways to ever accept an alternative.