Thanks for the info guys...I'm looking for something I can thrash around the sky with, that I won't get too attached to,ya know?! I've been flyin since 1974 (on&off) usually fun-fly types. Used to scratch build my own before they got to be these wild+crazy things we got now. I guess I'm not as patient @ building anymore,and that Bobcat looks kinda cool,and just about ready to go...Just throw in a rx.,batt.,+s/w.(probably need to re-do the linkages?)For 189.95 w/eng. + servos,don't sound too bad...I wanna fly before the snow does. Getting a little bored w/slow+park flyers,I need a quick fix of glow power! BTW this r/c universe site is pretty cool,huh? Thanks again.