Today I maidened the Phoenix Model Sonic .25 low wing trainer. I Have an os .25 fx engine with MAS 9 x 5 prop on this thing and it took off in less than 20 ft! 2nd and 3rd time I took off only needed about 2/3 throttle. I had no trouble whatsoever with this thing, just need to level the wings after a turn since it doesn't do it for you like a trainer. It flew straight and level with just 2 clicks down elev. If anyone is thinking of geting one of these for a second plane I would have to say you could probably pull it off cause I'm DEFINITELY a beginner and I did just fine. I probably haven't had this much fun flying since the day I first got the trainer switched to m y radio THe plane built really easilly and I finished it in 2 nites. It did require 2.5 ozs of lead in the front. Other than that no prob's at all. You will have to use z bends on the servo arms cause there is not sufficient room between the aelerons and the servos for easy connectors (I think thats what they are called(screw holds control rod)) THank you to whoever suggested this to me.