actually the airplane is good at 3d it has massive surfaces alot of wing area its light but it is short coupled. i have a couple friends with them and they love them, but for the motor xoon has he should get a NOT FOR SALE 60 insane plane for around $75 thats with the wood and plans not radio gear/motor, but you do need to scratch the kit and build it, so its not instant gratification, but for the money i think its worth it. JM2C Im building a 40 with a K&B 45.

Josh