I am glad to see Kelsey come in and make his views known. Seems that those at Vmar are making a good attempt to come out of there shell, and are making good attempts to clean up the name Vmar by boosting quality, and communicating their changes to customers. Even though I have voiced my dissapointment with the Vmar Plane I purchased from them, I must say that it looks like they are trying to move forward in a positive direction. At some point if they keep moving in a positive direction they will lift the Black Cloud that hangs over them, and surely get recognized for producing Low Cost Quality Airplanes sometime in the near future. So hang in there, and keep moving forward because vmar really does offer some nice designs if they can just get the quality issues all ironed out.