Something I would really like to know is whether Vmar has designed a better tire to include with there ARFS. This is no joke, but the tires that came with my Subaru were egg shaped, and would have caused the poor pilot who already looked scared out of his mind a severe case of hemroids. I gave my Subaru away "FREE" a couple weeks back to a guy at my club who liked the looks of it minus the engine and radio. I was going to take my good Dubro low bounce wheels back off of it before I gave it away, but I just couldn't get myself to put them egg shaped vmar wheels back on it. I think they were designed to launch the Plane into the air after one rotation. Anyway he was happy to get the Plane, and it was a very good flyer, and looked great in the air. I just told him that he would have to handle it with care, because they are a fragile Plane. The cowl is very thin, and the wing sheeting is thin enough to put your fingers through if you are not carefull carrying it. Again to Vmars credit, I will say that it was a very good flyer though. I still have my old Vmar stick 60 though that has been around forever and seen more flights than I can count. I have no idea why this Plane has lasted this long since it is a fragile Plane as well, and easy to damage while handling. Just keeps on flying though. I have included some photos that contain the two Vmars I have owned. The old stick 60 has had a cockpit incorperated into the top of the wing. It has also been recovered in SCRAPS. The old Plane is as crooked, and as warped as they come, but a fun old beater to fly.