All I can say is that somehow the VMARs that came into Malaysia last year had that bad news wood. I am speaking about the local conditions here when a VMAR costs about or a little more than a nice WM. Still you cannot deny that the VMAR planes do fly nice enough. My pal was flying the Stilleto (pylon from VMAR) and he passed me the controls ... told me to crash it. The plane had only less than 12 flights and covering was coming off etc. If VMAR can sort out such problems (too many have complained about it) they will be one good brand in the market.