I agree with that, but there were tuning options and set up to get them more composed. IN practice a guy with a regular one first gen MBX 4 with a Kyosho center diff and carbon parts etc... took Vegas set up-tried it and he was flying- and this is an old buggy. Keeping right up with the prospecs. It looked pretty neat. Like someone else said if the track is long few bumps they can still hold their own.