I appreciate all the advice that everyone has given me here. I'll put it all to good use. As far as moving up to a YS140, well I can dream can't I???? lol. I actually have that in the plans, but it gonna have to wait till next august when we pay off a couple of the loans that our business have!!! I'm lucky to have the Ultimate/YS120, it was a birthday present from my father-in-law last year (my wife told him that I was drooling over the ads in the magazine and he did the rest. yes, I'm lucky to have wife I have. she encourages this hobby for me). So I'll just make do with the YS120 for now till I can upgrade

thanks again all