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Old 08-08-2005 | 01:55 PM
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First of all, let me remind everyone here that it was good o'l Chad that started this one before the hooting and hollerin continues about "naysayers" and such. My one comment wasn't anit-anything. It was just general view on leisure time related to work and family commitments of which I consider myself somewhat knowledgable.......that's it.

ORIGINAL: can773

ORIGINAL: Jim_McIntyre

So we should all just give up and go home?
You cant blame anyone for not wanting to run the event.....the sideline critics would be enough to drive anyone from volunteering for such a task..... <---- what a load of bs.
Jim, do what works for you and enjoy it? "Real-life TV"? ....rant.....rant....? You may be interested to know, that my family hasn't had TV (other than the occasional rented movie) in our home since last November. I convinced them to give the experiment a try and we all agree it was one of the smartest things we ever did. I really don't know where we found time before. ......... besides I get enough of "real-life" at work.

ORIGINAL: can773

......if you figure in France 118 pilots - 94.4K, 43 countries @$400 each (for managers) - 17.2K or 111.6K just in entry fees alone. Typically entries are in the 100 pilot range with 35 countries attending, there is no reason we would have not had those numbers here. There are typically 21 judges and 3 Jury members brought in for the event, I dont have a good feel what the costs are associated with those individuals, but I think it was somewhere in the 60-80K range for them....that could be wrong though.
..........that's kind of what the last F3A "business case" looked like when they tried for the worlds the last year I was on the board. However, the majority of the board approved it and it was the FAI the killed that one. I suspect it's more a case of nobody wanting to put the work in to a proper business case in the first place that sets up one of the major hurdles. Hell, all the have to do is follow Keith's business case from the glider worlds to see what should be done before coming to the board with any world proposal.

There should be a simple formula up front for these events;

1. A proper accounting of expenses
2. A minimum break-even number of competitors, NOT INCLUDING PERCEIVED REVENUES LIKE T-SHIRT AND BEER SALES!
3. A deadline for money to be in for that minimum number whereas the event is responsibly deep-sixed. Emotion and pie-in-the-sky feel-good stuff has to stay out of the equasion.

As the paid up entrants increase beyond minimun, then you begin to think of adding some of the expensive fluff based on known moneys coming in. I think this is reasonable stuff?