Charlie...I agree with you on most points...good advice is good advice...

My main point, was that when you give good advice, don't take it personally and come back hatefull if they say they arent going to take your advice...thats all.

For most people...they will take baby steps...I am lucky...I am literally as close to a natural pilot as you can be...the first time i held a TX it was in my lhs on a sim (G3) ... in 5 minutes I was doing low inverted passes, full inverted circuits...etc... now i know the sim isnt real...and cant really teach you...but to me the controls have been natural from the first time i picked them up....so I have jumped in...

And just as a note of where im at on the scale...im at the bottom, i havent soled on my nexstar yet, but thats because ive only gotten a chance to fly it twice...and the second time I was told i could have soloed if we had more light left...new job, new car...things piled up and i havent got to the feild in a while...thats why i bought the stryker...i take it to work with me and fly on a lunch break...

I am by no means a pro, or an expert...and im not trying to give advice that i havent earned the right to give, im just saying when you give advice, just respect the other persons right to follow or not follow it...and leave it at that...its not personall when someone doesnt take you advice..