Thanks guys, sounds like I'm pretty much doing everything I can. When it 's blowing 15 to 20 out, I pretty much harrier around, pull up to a TR, then let it blow me down the runway while TR'ing. Gotta really work the elevators on those to keep the tail under the plane. I'll try working the ailerons to slow the TR down a bit. Up till now, I've never done that. My stick movements are becoming more automatic now and I really don't have to concentrate on any one control surface.