Um... Ramrod... ie: Rod... I did email those first 3 pics to Chris however those were to be on the Ultimate Web site and not for RCU. I think this violates some sort of copyright laws. So I tell ya what... you can either pay me half the fine directly for EACH violation, or you can just pay the full amount to the authorities [:@] Or you can also contact RCU and have them make thse the pics of the moment like I have tried And I know you didn't ask Chris to use those shots either or myself... really insulting. Maybe the respect is not there for Chris, but I would have figure you would have had the decency to ask me first. I'm hurt... and I think only a 102" QQ Yak can wipe away my tears.