ORIGINAL: elmissir
I would like to get into rc flying, I will not use an instructor. which one of these plane do you recommend for a first time user without instructor.
Buy the one for which spare parts are most available, and economical, you'll need them. Most people who try to learn without an instructor go through many rounds of crash and repair/replace before one of the following outcomes:
1) Give up
2) See the light and seek help from someone who knows what they are doing.
A small number actually make it on their own, but many more are in one of the 2 groups above.