Alan, Since they are out of production I would suspect that they have gone off the net. You could google them but I dont' hold out much hope that they are still around. I have noticed that the prices of their kits have gone way up on the news that they are no loger being made. I remember when their kits were deemed too much work for the average builder. Now they are like gold. Too bad I dont' have a stash of them so I could cash in too.