One other thing to think about is that with the high wing trainers, if it has a flat bottomed wing, you can easily build different wings for it, with different airfoils, dihedrals, added ailerons or lack of, etc. There is no reason that a trainer has to be boring. I'm building a Kadet Jr from plans. The plans call for almost 2" of dihedral on a 48" wing. I'm building it with NO DIHEDRAL AND AILERONS, to give me a 4-channel plane instead of three. Even on the wing mods, I'm working with an experienced designer who moderates another forum, so I know I'm not going to screw it up. Just something else to think about[sm=idea.gif]