yea in my opinoin truggies are lame i have a savage with and s-25 in it and i was racin it and some newbie with a brand new mbx-5 prospect truggy thing was racin and he bought the buggy and the conversion kit at the same time and this was his first car. goind down the straight he passed me but into teh hairpin he over steered and flipped over and stalled out cuase he had almost no fuel line or exhuast line and no fuel filter and a brand new v spec. spioled little brat i got secound a revo beat me out