Vince: If you had been one of them other guys I would not forgive you, but being you ex-USAF,your on my side.Besides I think that`s the only time I have been right all year! I got out in 1964 after nine years, so you got to fly on later birds than me. I go back to B-25, C-45,47, 53 ,54,118,119,121 & the one I spent most time on ,C-124. Even spent a year at Thule with F-89D`s. Being an instrument man we got them all. Merry Christmas to you & yours. big max 1935