I CAN ONLY ADD TO THE COMMENTS WHICH ARE ALL VALID THAT YES I AM OF THE OPINION THAT ARFS ARE HERE TO STAY AND NO I DISAGREE THAT SCRATCH BUILDERS ARE A DYING BREED. THE REASONS ARE SIMPLE IF YOU ARE INTO SCALE YOU ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING NO ONE ESLE IS FLYING FOR A SHOW. THE OTHER REASONS ARE ALSO SIMPLE MY THOUGHTS ON ARFS ARE THEY ARE MADE TO BREAK OTHER WISE THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF COMPANIES OUT OF BUSINESS NO PUN INTENDED BUT I HAVE BUILT TWO ARFS AND HAVE NOW GONE BACK TO BUILDING MY OWN DESIGNS THE ARFS DID NOT LAST LONG ALL THOUGH THE TWO I BUILT FLEW GREAT UNTIL CONTINUAL LANDINGS WEAKENED THE UNDERCARRIAGE MOTOR MOUNTS STARTED TO COME LOOSE AND ALL SORTS OF OTHER BOTHER. THEY ARE NOT AS STRONG AS A SELF BUILT MODEL.INCIDENTLY I WAS AWAY FROM THE FLYING FIELDS FOR NEARLY TWENTY YEARS BEFORE STARTING UP AGAIN AND NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED EXCEPT TECHNOLOGY THE OLD WRINKLIES WILL STILL TEACH THOSE THAT ARE WILLING TO LEARN HOW TO BUILD AND BE PROUD OF THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS I WAS PRIVY TO A YOUNGSTERS EFFORTS IN BUILDING A SMALL RUBBER POWERED MODEL AND WHAT A RUSH TO SEE IT FLY SO WELL AND WHEN ASKED HOW HE HAD MANAGED THE REPLY WAS MY DAD TAUGHT ME HOW AND NOW THAT HE IS GONE THIS IS HOW I PASS MY TIME WHEN I NEED TO BE NEAR HIM. SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT PERHAPS?