you're probably right.I know as soon as I get it flying right I'll probably start fiddling with something else on it and causing more problems. I remember talking with you about doing a DH2 and since than I talked myself out of it. I am now concidering a scratch built Elll in 1/4 scale with wing warping. In the mean time I will do some spoked wheels for this Elll.and redo the markings for "509". Over the winter I will be repairing a 1/3 scale Pup. 6 1/2 feet long ! I'll have to drive with my knees up against the dash board! ti get it to the field.