Jmir youve seen the power i have in the edge then. in the video the airframe is totally stock except landing gear/it cost $70.00 to convert to the gearbox and run the 400 inrunner with 12x6 prop/i think it shows the performane in the video and is well worth the time for the modification. i can post all the steps in my gallery if your interested in really getting power in the edge/also if your dead set on outrunners with no gear box.. E-Flite has a stick adapter for out runners for $4.99 http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByC...rodID=EFLM1915 and a new outrunner that has more power that they suggest for there edge 540/the edge was pretty heavy and didnt seem to have the power of my parkflyer edge with same motor/gearbox prop combo/heres motor link http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByC...rodID=EFLM1400 good luck with your hovers.