I can't stand cen either. They might have done something right on the matrix but it really isn't hard to look at another buggy and make the same design... for all anyone knows it could have been a fluke that the thing handles good. I do know they have don't testing and tuning with it but I'm pretty sure its the drivers that told them what they want and what changes will give it to them. Look at anything else cen has built... the parts are cheap, designs aren't well thought out. As far as I'm concerned they haven't shown any will at all to make a good performance product instead they just want money. If they really did... they would have confidence in their product instead of spending money on dumbass advertisments. Confidence like what kyosho shows with 6 back to back world championships on the MP777 box. If you don't have championships than just let the product do the talking like XRay and Mugen did. Cen as a company just isn't racing material.