You know its a credible thread when Dick Hanson reponds.
ORIGINAL: dick Hanson
if you are designing your own "perfect 3D flyer " try to get the lightest model with the most static and dynamic thrust and use surfaces which react easily and predictably to prop airflow .
I did this, IMO. Called the Frenzy. My concept, designed and built by Kris Welter in Concord, NC. Flew it at Joe Nall in 2004 (its on the DVD and Inside R/C Joe Nall show), looked like a fish. Everyone says it ugly, however when they see it fly they all said "WOW". 80 inch wing, 15 lbs with a BME 50 on a can with a Prince prop, full flying elevator with 70 degrees of throw and full flying rudder with about the same. Kris just finished the next generation of the Frenzy, better looking and as Dick said, smaller wings.
Wish I knew how to do multiple quotes..............The paragraph by STG about if it says 3D it must be 3D is down right funny. I have been telling people for YYYYYYYYYYYYEARS, just becasue it has a 3D sticker don't make it 3D. The license plate on my truck says YNOT 3D don't mean it 3D. Thats funny Dude.