ernie,, dunno if you read most of what I posted, I currently fly a Phoenix Giles 202. And this is my first plane. I didn't learn with a trainer. I wanted something more stable and very aerobatic. The Giles is just a sports flyer type of plane. Fun but too heavy for my taste. So I'm looking into the simple Stick design type of plane. Couple of friends have them and these things fly great. I want one!! The US40 is nice, if i'm paitient enough I will get it. Thanks for the headsup..

-Tomi