Got one word for ya' Farmer Boy...Ebay! Check it out for electrics, ("electric airplanes"); they got a buncha RTFs, all for under $150. Also check out RCUniverse classifieds, & RCGroup classifieds, & Ezone & Wattflyer. Also, Hobby People catalog has some exceptional deals on ARFs, not sure about their website. There must be more, but I can't think of them right now. I never bought anything online, excepting a couple golf clubs, but in the r/c world, it seems that virtually everything online is cheaper than at the local hobby shop, and if these guys are snots, well...just blow 'em away! Don't be afraid to email 'em and ask about lowering their S & H prices, too. Some will, some won't, but asking's free. One guy's selling me a Spitfire RTF for $99 delivered, after advertising it for $59 + $55 S & H. I've seen the same one for as high as $159. I went to buy a battery charger yesterday when it turned out the LHS had it for the same price - buncha kids, acted like I was imposing on their time shootin' the crap with their buddies. Don't need it, and with the price of gas, shipping fees are cheaper, since I live out of a major city by 30 - 40 miles or so. Good luck. Bil