Wow sory guys not replying to any msg i ve been in a lot studying.... If anybody needs anythink about sound science pls be my guest. LOL. So I will Start With DR1 thnx for changing up my mind no hard building for the moment i have just order a cheap Miss hanger one for about 80 dollars wich i think i have to build from scratch so i will gain some experience and then i will go to somethink more experinced u know how's it goes. As about the arf crashing imagine if anybody new how to build. The only one that should be suttisfied where going to be balsa wood suppliers and glue suppliers. And futaba as well :P. But some basics i think they are needed that's why i wanted to buil my plane instead of just buying one ready to fly. As about starting with a trainer i don like the idea. I don like their design i am kind strange on that. The only trainer that exist's for me and maybe is not even a trainer is the p-51d mustang by parkzone. And yes I had a foamie not anymore. It was my 1st plane i had to crash it couldn't ignore the tradition. Thnx for your help guys. I will reply again if any new posts.

Panos