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Old 11-16-2005 | 02:49 AM
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Default RE: Buggy vs Trucks

ORIGINAL: mayhem maniac

Why are we comparing Truck and Buggy? Now Buggy and truggy is a better competition.

Basically MT's are bashers, and not track performers. they can jump very high, but buggies fly much further, and go faster as well. But the buggies lack the low end torque that the MT's have, which allows them to easily do back flips, and sometimes front flips(depending on if they have reverse, or good brakes)

It's a matter of whether you want to go higher, or further.

Higher:MT wins
Further:usually the buggy

Faster:Buggy
MM, you were doing well for a while with a couple of good posts, but last night it seems you had a nightmare. Stop guessing, and then supplying those guesses like you know what you are talking about.

I agree that truck and buggy is a poor comparison, they have totally different applications. Now to start with your post. First mistake, thinking trucks jump higher. Why do you think that? It's like the classic question, what's heavier, a ton of feathers or a ton of lead? It totally depends on the jump. If the jump is the same angle, then they will take off at the same angle. Simple physics, no? The lighter vehicle (and the one carrying more speed over the jump) will go higher and further. The extreme rotating mass of the drivetrain in a truck is what gives them such good poise control in the air, as super dave explained to you. Lastly, buggies lack low end torque??? What are you on about? The amount of torque comes from the motor. Put the same motor in a truck and a buggy, and see which one accelerates quicker (two speed or not).

ORIGINAL: mayhem maniac
1st gear is geared low for tons of torque. A buggy is equipped with a 1speed, and it has to be geared low, like 11-12 tooth clutch bell, to get high torque. As well as an engine with fewer ports.
Two mistakes out of two, again. Gear ratios don't provide torque, only the powerplant provides torque. Gear ratios provide drivetrain coefficients which provide more or less resistance to the torque applied from the motor. And where on earth do you get the idea that less ports is more torque? History has led us to believe this, but it's not necessarily true. The same thing is said in full scale cars, that 16v (4 cylinder) engines have more top end and 8v engines have more torque, this is not true either. Collari LC21B3 3 port, cannot match the torque of a ws7II (7 port), for example...and the mk2 VW Golf 1.8 16v GTi has more torque and hp than the 8v. Similarly to use a more modern example (VW again), the 1.8 8v turbo in the early mk4 golf GTi, cannot match the torque or hp provided by the later 20v turbo used in all Audi, Seat, Skoda and VW vehicles bearing the mark 1.8T (or 20vt in the case of the Seats).

Sorry to sidetrack, valid comparison I feel...