RCTOM,, that is not my plane that is Krazy's,,, as I stated with my setup as I stated I weighed it on a set of 478 dollar "federal certified" scales and it came out at 20 lb 3oz's,,,,, what do you think,,, and in regards to the wingrocking,,, the wingrocking is not what I am talking about,, it is the tipstalls, or high speed stalls,, I think that the wing loading is contributing to greater tendencies of these,, the only time it wingrocks is in harriers, and I have taken care of that with 20% spoilerons' and rudder,,,