Okay, I think I have a plan. I still would like to build something over the winter. I'm thinking maybe it should be my second plane that I build. For my first plane I don't see how I could go wrong with the 40 size trainer at Raidentech for $39 as Flyin suggested. It's an ARF [] but so what, it'll get me in the air. For the second plane I remember my old Super Sportster 40 was a lot of fun. I know it's only available in an ARF, anyone know of something like it in a kit?