Pics are kind of dark but here's what I have. I've had a couple of these over the years and they are not for the faint of heart. Try to keep it as light as possible and it will be a great flier but if you get over 14.5# or 15# it will have a glide like a sack of potatoes. Mine in the pic came out to 12#12oz but it took a lot of work and every trick you can think of to come out that light. It really pays off if you can do it though.