I know just the gloves you're talking about. The problem is that I have rather large hands even for being 6'4". I can get those gloves on, but they really restrict my thumb movement. I've gotten used to flying my combat slope plane with gloves ( you just about have to when you're standing in 20+ MPH winds and it's anything but summer), but that's the only plane that I completely don't fear crashing. With anything else, it seems like I lose too much of the touch with gloves on. I like the idea of winter golf gloves - I may have to look into those.