One more thing no one has covered, go to the local flying field and you may find someone who is either getting out of flying (gasp) or moving on to a 2nd or 3rd plane and would like to sell his whole plane/radio combo for a good price so he can move on to bigger(smaller) and better equipment, so you can save some money, I'd like a good sim myself,, maybe my girl will get me one for xmas, perhaps I should drop some hints hmmmmmmm

ok back to you ,anyway some one there will know someone who knows someone that has a whole setup for sale or check out ebay........my 02 .. Rog