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I'm going to wait till someone posts some speed numbers before deciding on the Aon or the Mamba. I saw a Mamba 8k in my Friends Team Associated 18'th scale truck, and WOW. It was amazingingly fast, on the stock battery! We also weighed our trucks at work, his was 1.43lbs with battery and aluminum kit. My MLST was 2.26lbs with battery, stock.
straight from Troy enjoy!
All tests were done with stock gearing using TP 2000 7.4v & 11.1v li-poly packs. All Mamba Values were left at default w/ 1.02b software. Speeds were measured via GPS via at least two or more top speed passes. The Center diff was locked by slamming hot glue in the spider gears (this method works great as a temp fix until the spools are released) as without this the front tires just sit and spin wasting power and acceleration.
Completely Stock - Top speed 16.3MPH. Acceleration a bit better then the average RTR. Has enough power to pop wheelies if you lock the center diff and traction is perfect.
Stock with 7.4v Li-poly - 17.4MPH. Much better acceleration. Very small increase in top speed.
Warp4 2 Turn - Did Not Test: 28mm can motors will be a difficult fit, requiring a custom motor plate or going crazy with a dremel. Even then there will be little to no room to adjust the gear mesh so the spur/pinions will have to be changed in sets. Also, due to the deep gearing on the Mini-LST this motor would not be a good choice as its Kv is to low. When small spur gears an larger pinions comes out this will change things but until then there are better choices
AON T2415-4900/Mamba 25 - Top Speed: 27.4MPH w/3 cell li-poly, 18.1MPH w/2 cell li-poly. Amazing Torque (10++) and acceleration from this combo. Motor drops right in with zero mods. Top Speed is to close to stock with a 2 cell pack or 6-7 cell nimh. Excellent short track combo. Great throttle feel & control. We just got our shipment of the AON motors and will have them up shortly. Recommend the 3 cell li-poly setup only though as 2 cell/6-7 nimh is to close to stock speed.
Hyperion 5000/Mamba25 - Top Speed 32.4MPH w/3 cell li-poly, 22.1MPH w/2 cell li-poly- Very surprising top speed, Torque (10) & acceleration from this motor especially for a 5000Kv motor indicating these motors have a Kv higher then what the manufacture is listing or they are using different method (like Lehner) to test the Kv. Throttle control is second to none, every tiny movement of the throttle reply's back with a change in speed allowing for incredible control. Does require a quick touch up to the mounting plate with a dremel to fit however due to bearing boss on motor. Highly Recommend this combo with a 3 cell li-poly. 6-7 cell nimh & 2 cell li-poly can be used also for those wishing for only a mild speed increase over stock.
Hyperion 6000/Mamba25 - Testing not complete - Ran out of time on this one but will test shortly.
Mamba 6800/Mamba25 - Top Speed 33.1MPH w/3 cell li-poly, 22.8MPH w/2 cell li-poly - Good Torque (8+) & acceleration. The Mamba actually did very well in this heavy of a setup much to our surprise. While its torque was noticeably down from the Hyperion and AON setups, it still did very well and was impressive for such a small motor. Throttle control did feel a bit strange, after 3/4 throttle applying more throttle did not give back a increase in speed. This in turn made it harder to drive and we found ourselves spinning out more trying to get to top speed more then other combos since the throttle control felt more "touchy". However going through thick grass/sand will bog it down so recommend it mainly for hard surface (asphalt/packed dirt) driving only.
Mamba 8000/Mamba25 - Ran out of time testing, will do it soon.
Lehner 1015/11/Mamba 25 - Broke before top speed could be reached. Twice we shredded the drive shaft pinions with this motor without even trying. I had to sacrifce another Mini-LST kit just to keep the testing going due to this. The Torque and power is so excessive that we cannot reccomend this until upgraded drive shaft pinions These are the pinions that mesh with the differential in the front and back) are out. The motor alone is 149.95 so this will not be a very popular combo but def. one to lust after.
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Something you Aon fans should consider....its from Troy again.
Oh forgot to mention that I will be testing the Aon and Hyperion also with pinions up to 32 in size this week to. I think there is room for the AON to do better with a bigger gear since it has so much wasted torque right now.
I should be receive my aon soon hopefully and I'll take some vids