> SOME ROACH EHHH?? Couldn't help but rib our West Coast pattern brothers.

Hey, I heard that Matt. You guys are sure getting a lot of mileage out of my snide remarks. Sorry to crash your thread Mike, but the ribbing and all.

I don't really have a problem with wood. I flew my wood Oxalys 50 today, and it is great. Very light, stiff, no mixing required, and it flies superb. The Exclusiv Modelbau wood kits are beautiful. I wish they would make a pattern kit, and I would probably build one even though I swore off building. I have built many wood kits. I started off 1/3 a century ago with Guillows wood and tissue-colored rubber powered kits, and I will always have a soft spot for a built up model. However, for the choices available, I still prefer the French made kevlar/foam/carbon fiber/epoxy kits above all else for 2m pattern. The price is high, and the availability of parts is non-existant, but nobody builds a better and/or lighter pattern plane than Znline or Plf (9.0 pounds (4.07 kg) for the Supreme I just finished, no honeycomb or lightening techniques used).

Mike, you have a flair and passion for design, and that's great! You are making a positive difference in the hobby.

Sincerely,

David