I feel your pain NIpilot, I have owned, built and flown ARF"s from every manufactur'er around, starting with the DuBro ARF that was manufactured in the sixty's. Some good, some better, and alot worse. I must say that the best overall ARF, I've ever assembled, was the "KANGKE," Laser 2000. I realize that by makeing that statement I'm opening myself up, because what I say is very subjective. Nothing, and I mean nothing.........could I find wrong with the design, or the components of the kit. I was so impressed with the quality of the kit that I just ordered another KANGKE kit from Chief. WACO BIPE.