Ok,,, it flys !! Did the maiden today and I'm very happy with the results. I've gotten a bit more interest on the Superstar over in the 3/D forum so you can go there and see more pics and review stuff. [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3617436/tm.htm]GO HERE[/link] All in all Seagull has really stepped up to the plate on this ARF and if they continue the improvements on their next batch of ARFs they will be back in the running with the higher calibre ARF companies.