Well I quess I got my butt reamed on this. Look fellow flyers if you jump into some thing with both feet you have got to know all you can. You all know that. The good the bad and the ugly. I'm not tripping my own trigger here believe, I can be as dumb as a rock an twice on sunday. I'm still a newbe here myself. Christ some of you guys are doing things with model planes people of my generation never thought possable till someone did it. Who knows whats next. Breaking the sound barrier with a model jet? That I would love to be in on. You guys are so smart I'm surprized we haven't got a lawnmower to fly. I read most of the replies Ive gotten over the months and learn from my own short commings.That's how it's done. Say something stupid and I learn. Get *****ed at and learn. I thank you all.... ISIS