Now I'm down with that! I LOVE the piped Rossi 61's, OS VF's, OPS's, Picco's... that's what I'M talkin' about! I like the SPA idea, but no pipes and retracts..man that's cold. Give me the classic designs, Piped 61's, retracts...noise, speed, 300 ft loops....sex, love, rock and roll, .....I have enough of the "speed" pattern era engines to equip a fleet...and I have a lot of vinyl albums, too