To those of you who are here for this threads' origional purpose please excuse some of the above bickering. I just can't stand to watch an innocent thread where sincere questions are asked (like this one) be used by someone like KG to lash out at others so please excuse me for a moment.

Kevin,

So you want to attack me now? Great!

I feel sorry for guys like you. Your whole purpose is to insure that what ever you fly, it is seen to be the "in thing to have". Hell, your worst nightmare is waking up and finding that the equipment you own is not considered to be "the right stuff" by those you so desperately want to "hang" with. You are constantly changing your agrument to support that purpose. I chose to step in to this post when you were using this forum to attack a guy for your own selfish reasons (whether you know it or not).

I too understand saftey issues and agree that some of what has brought about your posts has merit. I was there - remember. I don't want unsafe pilots either but lets face a few facts. Dealing with those issues has its place - a posting asking about opinions on a particular model that you have never owned or even seen flying is not where you can apoint yourself ZAR of saftey issues and attack a guy in hopes that everyone will see your point of view.

This has been my point from the beginning no matter how you try to twist this agrument. I think perhaps a safety formum on jets is warrented for just such a sort of occasion but I think you should agree that this isn't the place - or am I wrong?