Thanks for the tips. I have been taking off on concrete because it's the only spot I have to take off from. I will try using the trim. So I'm taking it that this is normal with the brushless setup alot of times (wasn't sure if that was just some of that great Walkera quality . I've flown a dragonfly 4, a colco cyclone, and this dragonfly 36 with brushed motors and none of them took off like that, I could spool up slowly if I went very slow on the throttle. I haven't had much time to mess with it yet, but I haven't been able to take the training gear off because the way it does that. I already like this heli though, as seeing it can handle more than 10 times the wind my #4 could, which means I can fly on an average day.