I have the 60 size cap232 which I have been very hesitant to finish because of all the horror stories I have heard about VMAR. On the other hand the only way to find out is do it yourself and form you own opinion I guess. So I will be finishing it very soon to see how it does after quite a few modifications. It should be ready. With this being said I guess you get what you pay for and dont ask for too much.