estarter was my 1st plane. never flown before that not even a sim. did ok. took it real easy and didn't crash till my 4th flight that's about when i started getting brave, trying loops. hint if you try a loop... have plenty of altitude. g reat learner very stable even in wind. build as instructed by manual mine had 400 with 2 cell lipo. im into 3d flying now and i miss the estarter sometimes.