Hi guys, thanks for the info Mike and Ram-bro. Mike the information on the MW-44 is very useful and gave me something to think about. Everyday, I'm getting more and more hooked on this plane. I'm thinking about going ahead and putting in a pre-order but I sure would like to know a grand total before I obligate myself. The only thing thats killing me is that I'm thinking ready to go I'll be looking at about the same price as a Tam F-16, or the up coming Tam/JL T-45. Which are larger planes. But I do like the A-7 better, and hopefully it will be a little under the price of these two planes. If I get one it will defintaly have to be a primer version and I will probally try to get it close to this one. I sure hope I can get missle and drop tanks.